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the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive than almost any of the tax discussions in the media or in washington. they were beating us in 140 characters. >> the president's twitter -- you have to -- in too many abbreviations but i'm getting ahead of myself here. let's talk about those substantive tweets which is to say, i want to talk about the closing of loopholes. i spoke with grover norquist about this magic math that the republicans are doing. let's say they put closing loopholes and deductions on the table. the issue is whether anybody is going to go for this. the deductions that are there are very popular. the ones that would get the most reve
the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have you. we need your help today. >> you know what makes me sad about that twitter discussion. >> what's that? >> those were 140 character bites more substantive...
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that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a responsibility to take care of our parents too if we can. the government needs to be helping people who can't help themselves, that are going to have difficulty doing that. >> i'm glad you made this argument because this is the argument that you hear pete peterson make who's funding a lot of the groups who are talking about attacking the debtor the deficit and you hear mitch mcconnell and you hear some republicans and democrats make it. well, look, progressives, you care about redistribution and you care about all of these things, equali
that's a greater drain on the economy. it takes their money and spending power out of the economy, puts it into health care. however, though, i do think there should be some further adjustments on eligibility. i do not believe that i should be able to get the same kind of benefits as, say, you know, a retired school teacher. i should have to pay a greater co pay. the threshold before i got any benefits should be there. also, my children, hopefully, if they are successful, i think we have a...
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the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the first week in january and you pass a bill and then the tee partiers, boehner can make the argument to them if twhanlt to be reasonable. now you're voting for a tax cut. not for everyone but for 98%. before that happens the tea party people will say we're voting to raise taxes on the research. if you're voting to let it happen on its own -- >> do you people buy that story? they know what the mechanics of this thing are. >> let me finish one second. the tea partiers have to worry, some of them,ing being challenged from the right if they vote for anything resembling
the world economy doesn't know. my question is this. would the republican party like to go over the cliff hanging onto that 2% rich people and say that's why they did it? can they live with themselves if they do it? >> they have -- in some ways the politics for boehner becomes easier. i don't like to call it a cliff. after they go down the slope. >> why? >> because if nothing happens between now and the oerchd the year, all the tax cuts, puff, they disappear. you come back the...
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>> the second term for the president and the economy is even more important to both parties. >> what have you learned? >> i think the president has learned that he needs to stand tough with the republicans. >> that's it. >> and that's -- that is the lesson of his election. >> instead of backwards the way he did his first two years. >> exactly right. >> axelrod is coming on tomorrow and we've taken that mustache off. if it's way too early it's "morning joe." stick around right now though for chuck todd "the daily rundown." >>> take it to the bank. timothy geithner says the white house is ready to go over the cliff. republicans might stucmble, though, into having some leverage if they end up backing the tax rate plan now and kick the rest of the can to february. one top republican governor has some stinging sarcasm for his own party's position. in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan
>> the second term for the president and the economy is even more important to both parties. >> what have you learned? >> i think the president has learned that he needs to stand tough with the republicans. >> that's it. >> and that's -- that is the lesson of his election. >> instead of backwards the way he did his first two years. >> exactly right. >> axelrod is coming on tomorrow and we've taken that mustache off. if it's way too early it's...
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. >> members of his own party seem quite comfortable with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> speaker boehner doesn't want to propose spending cuts, so now he's trying to pressure the white house to do it. >> there's been no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there's a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> a reporter asked senate majority leader harry reid about speaker boehner's comments. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> and, of course, another day more republicans dumping grover norquist. among nebraska and is iowa republicans, most of them told the world herald this week they could support a broad budget agreement, even if the deal ends up including higher tax revenues. i won't have a problem with letting those tax rates go up, representative mike simpson said to reuters. but new york
. >> members of his own party seem quite comfortable with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> speaker boehner doesn't want to propose spending cuts, so now he's trying to pressure the white house to do it. >> there's been no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there's a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> a...
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it is part of what we need to succeed in this global economy. and i'm going to fight for every young person is willing to work hard to get an education. gerri: should everyone have a college degree? >> if i was the president, i think you might has well said let me be clear. every student should start with 30,000 dollars of debt and maybe a bankruptcy. it's absolutely asinine. the current system we have in place is noing short of immoral. we are putting students that it is economically imperative for them to get an education, but then we are putting them in that situation a situation was. not only are there no jobs, starting with 30,000 dollars of debt is not a way to start your life. gerri: let's get marked in him. i'm going to give you more time. we would like to get more time. mark, is it asinine to these kids start their lives with so much debt and give it to everybody? >> well, college benefits -- the students who have college degrees earn 70 to 80% modents e degrees earn 70 to 80% more. the federal gvernment gets twice as much federal incom
it is part of what we need to succeed in this global economy. and i'm going to fight for every young person is willing to work hard to get an education. gerri: should everyone have a college degree? >> if i was the president, i think you might has well said let me be clear. every student should start with 30,000 dollars of debt and maybe a bankruptcy. it's absolutely asinine. the current system we have in place is noing short of immoral. we are putting students that it is economically...
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. >> when the economy is tough and times are a little tough this is news that cheers everyone up. >> british love her, it makes everybody a little happier. >> reporter: since the day they got engaged they've been talking about the importance of family. >> be able to have a happy family ourselves. >> reporter: the when was off the table when prince william sat down with katie couric in may. >> is there anything you would like to tell me? >> tight lips. >> reporter: kate toasting with water in september. last week prince william happy accepting a onesie. the clues were there, if you knew where to look. >> one of the many ways william and kate aren't that different from your average couple is the fact they got a puppy. when you -- >> reporter: kate is not one to back down from a challenge days before being admitted to the hospital she was playing field hockey in high heels. great role model for a daughter who would need to be strong. under new rules the first born will be next in line for the throne even if it is a girl, even if a boy comes later. potential queen elizabeth iii. >> at th
. >> when the economy is tough and times are a little tough this is news that cheers everyone up. >> british love her, it makes everybody a little happier. >> reporter: since the day they got engaged they've been talking about the importance of family. >> be able to have a happy family ourselves. >> reporter: the when was off the table when prince william sat down with katie couric in may. >> is there anything you would like to tell me? >> tight lips....
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that'll be a problem for our economy. people will not be engaged unless they have clarity in this thing. i have more faith in this institution. after the end of the day, you do the right thing. if you look at the history of this body, it roughly comes up with the right answer. we have not dealt with the debt ceiling since the beginning of this country. i think we are very capable and we can do it. >> i will respond by saying that we have been trying to deal with our cascading debt and deficit for decades. i would say that we have been far short of doing the right wing -- right thing to look for a healthy fiscal future. >> thank you, senator. >> i agree that we usually do the right thing but only after we try everything else. the time has come. i see this as a scary time. we need to protect our fragile economy, but it is also an opportunity to move forward. i first question is based on your predictions -- what do you think the timeframe is for possible further downgrades from the crater agencies -- credit reating agencies?
that'll be a problem for our economy. people will not be engaged unless they have clarity in this thing. i have more faith in this institution. after the end of the day, you do the right thing. if you look at the history of this body, it roughly comes up with the right answer. we have not dealt with the debt ceiling since the beginning of this country. i think we are very capable and we can do it. >> i will respond by saying that we have been trying to deal with our cascading debt and...
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we'd jam the economy into a devastating recession. i mean, david said it well in his piece this morning. if you think the fiscal cliff is a problem, this kind of hostage taking around the debt ceiling is multiples of that and the president is, i think, very correct to stand extremely firm and be extremely clear that he's not going to play that game. >> karen, the politics of this are frightening for the republicans. the latest polling does not support their stance. and given that they spent four years obstructing this president and failed, why do it again from the outset of his second term? >> well, you know, there's good news for the republicans, martin. karl rove's group, crossroads gps is going to spend some money for some ads, and we know that's a successful strategy in convincing the american people. >> that's good news. >> i can't pass that chance up to do that. >> i understand. >> i think part of what's so important about the polling, we talked about this on monday and the quinnipiac polling you were showing, the republicans ha
we'd jam the economy into a devastating recession. i mean, david said it well in his piece this morning. if you think the fiscal cliff is a problem, this kind of hostage taking around the debt ceiling is multiples of that and the president is, i think, very correct to stand extremely firm and be extremely clear that he's not going to play that game. >> karen, the politics of this are frightening for the republicans. the latest polling does not support their stance. and given that they...
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. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses. it will hurt our economy. >> reporter: the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows the public is with the president on this debate. on this debate. 60% support raising taxes on incomes higher than $250,000. >> it's going to affect their standard of living very little, if at all, and -- the rest of us are being asked to pay for a party that we weren't invited to. >> congress doesn't do anything, then -- i have a feeling that it's really going to be devastating for next year. >> reporter: on other proposals, the poll shows the public is mixed when it comes to increasing revenue by eliminating the mortgage income tax deduction. but they decidedly do not want to see the medicare eligibility age go up from 65 to 67. >> it bothers me when they say it's an entitlement, when we actually paid all these years when we were working. >> i think it's very difficult for people to reach a compromise, which is unfortunate, because the nation is what suffers. >> repo
. >> you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses. it will hurt our economy. >> reporter: the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows the public is with the president on this debate. on this debate. 60% support raising taxes on incomes higher than $250,000. >> it's going to affect their standard of living very little, if at all, and -- the rest of us are being asked to pay for a party that we...
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drive around the country and see scores closed, out of business, because of what's goingn with our economy, that really tears my heart up. tax me, i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes. >> i pay hugh month -- the more money the congress gets, the more may they -- >> i got to see it doing some good. you have a foundation, i have a foundation. we give a lot of money privately to charity wes know, like the wounded warriors, we know they do -- chuck, thanks for coming. >> thank you, bill. >> would you call yourself a consecutive now? >> i've been conservative. on -- because of the position that we're in right now. >> financial position. >> certain financial, and i always said if you're going to wear the badge that we've earned of sheriff of the world. then you better act like wyatt earp. >> that puts you in aminority in hollywood. there aren't some actors they say they're conservative, they won't work. >> being a hypocrite here because i don't like when actors talk politics. >> we never hear you talk politics. >> i don't but i'm on the o'reilly show. >> why don't you like actor
drive around the country and see scores closed, out of business, because of what's goingn with our economy, that really tears my heart up. tax me, i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes. >> i pay hugh month -- the more money the congress gets, the more may they -- >> i got to see it doing some good. you have a foundation, i have a foundation. we give a lot of money privately to charity wes know, like the wounded warriors, we know they do -- chuck, thanks for...
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let's keep our economy on the right track. let's stand up for the american belief that each of us have our own dreams and aspirations, but we're also in this together. we can work together in a responsible way that we're one people and one nation, that's what this country is about, that's what all of you deserve, what i'm fighting for every single day and i will keep fighting for as long as i have the privilege of being your president. thank you very much everybody. god bless you, god bless america. >> that is president obama speaking at the manufacturing facility in hatfield, pennsylvania. melissa harris-perry i think sasha and malia will get kinex roller coasters. could the president push those more than the tax cuts. i'm likening this to when dillon went electric. we are seeing obama play a hard ball that the democrats have not played with this current sort of republican party and it's most modern manifestation. what do you make of the messaging now, the fact he is going hard with one message only, which is about middle cla
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find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to kaiser report. more news today violence is once again flared up the film these are the images cobol has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations rule the day. the opinion. i am.
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we're gonna grow, not slow the economy. we're gonna grow, not slow, the economy. we're gonna grow, not slow, the economy. >> but here is how the episode ended. there you see senator portman with four of the protesters after his speech. well, according to buzz feed, portman and those four protesters, all ohio residents, had an impromptu meeting after his speech ended. it lasted about 20 minutes and concluded with that group photo. i guess thas one way to be a politician and a protester. gets the guy's attention, he gets their attention, they meet, you have a meeting, something gets done. >>> also, why is sarah palin apologizing to fellow republicans? it turns out she's having second thoughts about warning them not to be with uses in debates on taxes and government spending. here is palin and her mea culpa, plus a nugget about socialism. >> well, i guess i shouldn't call politicians names -- >> i don't not? >> i apologize for calling the wobbly ones wusses. that distracts from the points that has to be made. i say go back to what the blanks in your platform represen
we're gonna grow, not slow the economy. we're gonna grow, not slow, the economy. we're gonna grow, not slow, the economy. >> but here is how the episode ended. there you see senator portman with four of the protesters after his speech. well, according to buzz feed, portman and those four protesters, all ohio residents, had an impromptu meeting after his speech ended. it lasted about 20 minutes and concluded with that group photo. i guess thas one way to be a politician and a protester....
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>> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost religious and ideological, how fervently that belief is and how common that is among people who make a ton of money. >> it's one of the few times that you find a vague semblance of ideology in these people. because they're very practical, most of the time. whatever works in terms of making money is what they'll all choose. but you're right, sometimes even when you show them the numbers and say, listen, recognizing unions, you can be more profitable overall, they don't like that. >> felix salmon, reuters finance blogger, who will be live blogging in january, you should check that out, thanks for
>> they're being given a choice between an economy which has been fantastic for them. labor has done really badly. they're saying, the current situation is great for us. but now we have two choices, between great and even better. are and given the choice, they'll take even better. >> and you talk about liberal pieties or whatever, the hatred of unions. i think that people underestimate, don't get -- and i've encountered this in my reporting, how visceral, almost dogmatic, almost...
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summers ago, congress realized that if they couldn't compromise on a deficit and revenue plan, our economy would crash. turns out they couldn't compromise. so here's what they did. in order to force themselves to work together and compromise, they concocted a catastrophic penalty that would itself crash our economy. brilliant. put it another way. if there is an asteroid headed towards the earth, we made it and fired it at ourselves. because otherwise we would never have done the hard work required to protect ourselves from asteroids. >> good morning. it's friday, november 30th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, we have msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com, richard wolffe is here. >> he's here? >> my lord. right here on the set. political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. >> hi. >> cute thing. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at nyu and former democratic congressman harold ford jr. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> he's reading. >> put that down right now. put the smut down. close it
summers ago, congress realized that if they couldn't compromise on a deficit and revenue plan, our economy would crash. turns out they couldn't compromise. so here's what they did. in order to force themselves to work together and compromise, they concocted a catastrophic penalty that would itself crash our economy. brilliant. put it another way. if there is an asteroid headed towards the earth, we made it and fired it at ourselves. because otherwise we would never have done the hard work...
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you want to flirt with putting the economy into recession? have at it. >> that is essentially what the white house is up to right now. they said, in an era where americansment compromise, the president not compromising, this is what i want, and for that political agenda, i'm willing to go over the cliff. the secretary of treasury, the highest economic officer in the land said, oh, yeah, we're prepared to go over the cliff. that's telling the american people we don't care about the recession, unemployment that creates, we have an agenda, and that's more important. gerri: the k0*s of that could be the lost of 700,000 jobs, up to 2 million jobs, a recession, everybody predicts that. i want to talk to you, though, about the debt limit. we talked about that for a few minutes. an economist at moody's advising the president over a number of years had this to say about getting rid of the debt ceiling limit. we need to get rid of the ceiling law, it's a problem. what do you say to that? >> it's from a hundred years ago, and it was put there for a reas
you want to flirt with putting the economy into recession? have at it. >> that is essentially what the white house is up to right now. they said, in an era where americansment compromise, the president not compromising, this is what i want, and for that political agenda, i'm willing to go over the cliff. the secretary of treasury, the highest economic officer in the land said, oh, yeah, we're prepared to go over the cliff. that's telling the american people we don't care about the...
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with thirteen trillion dollars sorry fourteen trillion dollar economy with thirteen trillion dollars of our good to men and the government keeps having to make up the difference so we have to put money into the pockets of people we're going to spend it now the democrats proposed by extending unemployment insurance helping the people who are really at the people who might be living in their cars otherwise you want to increase infrastructure spending we want to extend tax breaks for the middle class and whether republicans keep on wanting do they want to keep on extending ten. breaks for the rich even though it hasn't created jobs it's not going to create jobs all it does is it helps to pay back the people who give them their campaign contributions every two years right speaking of whom you know frank luntz calls them the job creators there's this group of eighty or so of these c.e.o.'s that are doing a dog and pony show they're going to start running all these ads this in this next week about how they want to see a balanced approach you know that if we're going to raise taxes on the r
with thirteen trillion dollars sorry fourteen trillion dollar economy with thirteen trillion dollars of our good to men and the government keeps having to make up the difference so we have to put money into the pockets of people we're going to spend it now the democrats proposed by extending unemployment insurance helping the people who are really at the people who might be living in their cars otherwise you want to increase infrastructure spending we want to extend tax breaks for the middle...
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you're in a grown not for the economy we're going to grow and that's. really really good. stuff the car going to be good. not sell the cars the earnings are going to be i. think corporate america got the message but we know at least one guy didn't instead he was apparently angry that is speaking fee from the heritage foundation wouldn't get paid which he seems to say here would screw up things for his kids. i know you know i mean i don't know if you can. i mean i don't know if girls through age got all that money in the or in the ruble doesn't always guard you're going up paying for my kid and these are the real people here that night amount there's not for the record that was ed. who attack one of the protesters he's a millionaire a former executive a drug giant pfizer former health care lobbyist and a current scholar at the right wing heritage foundation. obviously didn't get the message let's hope this protest serves as a lesson for the rest of americans and the wealthiest two percent of americans the middle class in this country is not going down without a fight. at th
you're in a grown not for the economy we're going to grow and that's. really really good. stuff the car going to be good. not sell the cars the earnings are going to be i. think corporate america got the message but we know at least one guy didn't instead he was apparently angry that is speaking fee from the heritage foundation wouldn't get paid which he seems to say here would screw up things for his kids. i know you know i mean i don't know if you can. i mean i don't know if girls through age...
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in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and a new survey shows the president has the public on board in a new washington post poll, 60% support raising taxes on incomes over $250,000. a healthy majority. indeed, even some republicans appear to be under sway, by the force of reason. >> in my view, we all agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases. try to continue to work honestly for a much bigger deal. >> oklah
in fact, it would be bad for the world economy. and so i think it's very important that we get that resolved. and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach. >> the president met with middle class tax payers today, urging them to employ twitter hash tag my y2k, telling congress this is too important for them to screw it up. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. it's...
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i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many avenues to a victory right now but he's got a good escape, thomas. all john boehner has to do to exit out of this quickly is to say he won the election, we didn't, the american people in every survey say this is where we're going to go, we're going to go along with the wishes of the american people and the republicans would get goodwill for doing that. they have to get out of this ideological headrow that they're stuck in and do something for the company. >> the polls give them plausible acceptability of this plan of trying to move forward and, as you say, with the will of the american people
i do believe that this economy will continue to thrive, this economy will continue to move forward. i don't believe that we're going to go into a huge, deep recession again if these bush tax cuts expire. i do believe that you can strengthen the economy if you let everything go off the cliff and come back and put in front of the american people and do a better job for the economy. there's up side either way you go. the president has got boehner in an untenable position. he doesn't have very many...
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the economy's growing two percentage points. subtract 3.5, that is a severe recession. >> if we go off the fiscal cliff with no policy changes the near-term negative economic consequences would be significant and most assuredly throw us into a recession. >> comes a day after treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc the white house is prepared to go the distance if its demands are not met. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again we see there's no agreement that done involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. remember it's only 2%. >> former senator alan simpson, co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, choice words and analysis for would-be cliff jumpers. >> when you have leaders of parties and people from the administration saying, i think it will be to the advantage of the democrats to go off the cliff, wealthy it will be advantage to the republicans to go off the cliff or the president to go off the cliff, that's like betti
the economy's growing two percentage points. subtract 3.5, that is a severe recession. >> if we go off the fiscal cliff with no policy changes the near-term negative economic consequences would be significant and most assuredly throw us into a recession. >> comes a day after treasury secretary tim geithner told cnbc the white house is prepared to go the distance if its demands are not met. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the...
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and for those families and it would be bad for the world economy. it is very important to get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need so we can keep this recovery going. obviously, we will be spending some time talking about national security issues. i want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for a job well done and i take this opportunity to publicly embarrass two members whose birthdays are either today or tomorrow, rich, happy birthday to you, rich. that is tale today. and janet napolitano's birthday is tomorrow. guys, thank you. we want to get back to work. thank you, guys. could not be prouder of the job that susan rice has done. >>shepard: very rare for the president to take a question and actually answer it at the end of one of those. you heard him say in the past it would be a precedent to answer a question now because that would make people scream at me all the time with questions. he must have used this question as
and for those families and it would be bad for the world economy. it is very important to get that resolved and i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit and provide the kind of certainty that businesses and consumers need so we can keep this recovery going. obviously, we will be spending some time talking about national security issues. i want to say thank you to this extraordinary cabinet for a job well done and i take this opportunity to publicly embarrass two...
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our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this thing happen? >> i really got the feeling that they understood the stakes here. while they really wanted to hear from us, what they heard from the dozen small business people in the room who represented about 150,000 in our various progressive small business organizations was don't raise taxes on the middle class, tax the rich more. there were even calls in that room for higher minimum wages. clearly, no one wants to cut out the safety net that working people are promised for their lives of diligence, using their brains and brawn to
our economy is consumer driven. the more consumers that more money, the better it is for small businesses like me. this puts $2,000 to $3,000 in the hands of regular, ordinary working people who will spend it. the lower taxes on the rich just sends more money outside of our community, outside of our country to make bankers in the cayman islands happy. i am happy to see the president ask regular legislators to contact their legislators. >> do you think the president is trying to make this...
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it doesn't add to the economy and those top 2 don't need to get done. we all do agree on the bottom ones and i just -- i think now they've got themselves in a pretty tight box. i hope you keep beating the drum on this. >> stephanie: i think you're a helper. you're giving them an out. >> always the helpful teacher. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: representative tim walz of the great state of representative, thank you. talk to you soon. >> thank you. >> stephanie: you know what he is? he's someone who gets it done. brought to you by granger. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: that's right. with over 900,000 products for the ones who get it done. >> representative tim walz -- >> stephanie: nothing but net on that one. >> i wonder if he's related to -- >> no. >> inglorious basterds and carnage. >> stephanie: a complaint letter from ron in geneva, illinois. you guys, i object in the strongest possible terms tho who is who insinuate chicago punks are a bunch of gangsters. i'm attaching a photograph of my grandfather standing on the chicago lakeshore who, as far as i kno
it doesn't add to the economy and those top 2 don't need to get done. we all do agree on the bottom ones and i just -- i think now they've got themselves in a pretty tight box. i hope you keep beating the drum on this. >> stephanie: i think you're a helper. you're giving them an out. >> always the helpful teacher. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: representative tim walz of the great state of representative, thank you. talk to you soon. >> thank you. >> stephanie: you...
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the country and see the stores that are closed out of business because of what is going on with our economy, that really tears my heart up. >> tax me. i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes? >> i pay a hue mownineying gus amount -- humongous amount of taxes. >> so do i. >> you do, too. >> if it would help i wouldn't mind it. the thing is it will not help. the more money congress gets the more they spend. >> i have to see it is doing some good. you have a foundation i have a foundation. we give a lot of money privately to wounded warriors fisher house the people we know do good. >> chuck thank you for coming. good to see you beguagain. >> thank you, bill. >> would you call yourself a conservative now? >> i have become conservative because of the position we are in right now. >> financial position things like that. >> certainly financial. i have always said you are going to wear the badge that we wear, the sheriff of the world. act like wyatt earp. >> that puts you in a minority in hollywood. >> there is a fear out there with some actors who aren't as accomplished as you are af
the country and see the stores that are closed out of business because of what is going on with our economy, that really tears my heart up. >> tax me. i don't care. >> you don't care if you pay more taxes? >> i pay a hue mownineying gus amount -- humongous amount of taxes. >> so do i. >> you do, too. >> if it would help i wouldn't mind it. the thing is it will not help. the more money congress gets the more they spend. >> i have to see it is doing some...
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obviously globally, the economy is still soft. europe is going to be in the doldrums for quite some time, asia is not charging forward and some of the emerging markets are not charging forward as quickly as they were maybe a few years ago, but i think all of you recognized and many of you told me is that everybody's looking to america, because they understand if we're able to put forward a long-term agenda for growth and prosperity that's broad-based here in the united states, that confidence will not just increase here in the united states, it will increase globally and we can get the virtuous cycle that i think all of us have been waiting for and want to see. what's holding us back right now ironically is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town, and i know that many of you have come down here to try to see, is there a way that we can break through the log jam, and go ahead and get things done and i'm here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. i know you've gotten a lot of briefings but let me describe
obviously globally, the economy is still soft. europe is going to be in the doldrums for quite some time, asia is not charging forward and some of the emerging markets are not charging forward as quickly as they were maybe a few years ago, but i think all of you recognized and many of you told me is that everybody's looking to america, because they understand if we're able to put forward a long-term agenda for growth and prosperity that's broad-based here in the united states, that confidence...
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doub women are now of most vulnerableecommunities at a very fragil time i our natios economy. one of the tngs that is alo important as we have some public opinion polling that showed 62 percent of americans said they would have to substantially cut byy 25 t 50%. gerri: you know what's going to happen ithat deduction is ct the irony is this editorial writer was sig that i is sothing fr the rich. he end of the day the people o benefit are the poor n many cases. e openleter to the prsident we acknowledge and support the need to put our nati o a more sustnable fiscal pth ut are urged you to preserve the chariiable deductions powerful incentive for givi. to you. did you meet with the president or with his people working for him? did they give you any sense tht ey woulnot work toward taking away this dedution? have to tell you, we have proposals from bothides of the table alking but getting rid of thisdeduction or at least remein it. >> the president has for a long time taken a position that in order to pay forvrious programs he would limit the deduction for people who ean under 00,
doub women are now of most vulnerableecommunities at a very fragil time i our natios economy. one of the tngs that is alo important as we have some public opinion polling that showed 62 percent of americans said they would have to substantially cut byy 25 t 50%. gerri: you know what's going to happen ithat deduction is ct the irony is this editorial writer was sig that i is sothing fr the rich. he end of the day the people o benefit are the poor n many cases. e openleter to the prsident we...
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look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high in the month of october. breaking that down, it is 18.7 million people out of work across the 17 eu countries that use the euro. spain and greece have the highest jobless rates. 25% is the unemployment rate in spain and greece with youth unemployment levels, look at this, almost 60% in spain and greece. bill: good luck with that, huh? what a future. debate now underway on capitol hill where the house is set to vote on the republican immigration reform bill. if it passes the stem act would get rid of the lottery system and reallocate 55,000 green cards that people with advanced degrease with science and engineering. doug mckelway live on the hill with the story this morning. this bill failed in september. why are republicans bringing it back now? >> reporter: bill, it failed back in september because it was brought up under suspension rules which requires 2/3 majority so it failed. it is coming back today under normal house rules which require simple majorit
look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high in the month of october. breaking that down, it is 18.7 million people out of work across the 17 eu countries that use the euro. spain and greece have the highest jobless rates. 25% is the unemployment rate in spain and greece with youth unemployment levels, look at this, almost 60% in spain and greece. bill: good luck with that, huh? what a future. debate now underway on capitol hill where the house is set...
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beat in the race for president republican mitt romney they will talk tomorrow on ideas of reviving the economy. today the president is meeting with yahoo ceo marissa mayer talking about ways to avoid that year end fiscal cliff. the president said he hopes to have an agreement by christmas.k0ydx he's urging the public to pressure the congress through social media on twitter. >>> bay area small business owner met with the president yesterday to talk about this fiscal cliff, aurora is co-founder of an urban mushroom farm in oakland the farm was featured recently in "the chew." >>> congresswoman spwaoer introduced what she is calling her stop harming our kids resolution this morning on capitol hill. aimed at protecting minors from sexual orientation near i. the treatment -- therapy. critics call it junk science amountinging to psychological abuse. california is ahead of curve. governor brown signed a bill last month banning gay conversion therapy for minors. >>> supreme court is set to announce next week whether it will let prop 8 -- this morning -- [ unintelligible ] >>> still ahead, coverage of
beat in the race for president republican mitt romney they will talk tomorrow on ideas of reviving the economy. today the president is meeting with yahoo ceo marissa mayer talking about ways to avoid that year end fiscal cliff. the president said he hopes to have an agreement by christmas.k0ydx he's urging the public to pressure the congress through social media on twitter. >>> bay area small business owner met with the president yesterday to talk about this fiscal cliff, aurora is...
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you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses and hurt our economy. >> joining me now from washington, d.c., the democratic senator from washington, patty murray, a member of the senate budget committee. it is great to have you on the program. >> well, thank you, alex. nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut proposal and the norquist pledge will no longer keep republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. which would seem to be good news for republicans. what do you make of john boehner's statement saying bad idea? >> well, first of all, i respect represe
you're not going to grow the economy if you raise tax rates on the top two rates. it will hurt small businesses and hurt our economy. >> joining me now from washington, d.c., the democratic senator from washington, patty murray, a member of the senate budget committee. it is great to have you on the program. >> well, thank you, alex. nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among...
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a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all those things together. i think the president knows that we need to continue to make sure the regulations are strong. part of that is done by his administration and part of it is by congress. we know he will work with senator merkley, senator schumer, people who have been involved on these issues. and i'm optimistic we move forward. >> thank you for joining us tonight. >>> coming up, senator mitch mcconnell rails against reform, but john mccain doesn't agree. michigan senator debbie stabenow on filibuster reform. >>> later senator john kerry delivers an
a lot of positive figures out there in the economy. does a second term present a great opportunity for him to follow through on wall street reform? because there are some in the community that think he was a disappointment in that regard. >> first of all about the economy, my state right after the auto rescue, my state's unemployment rate was 10.6%. now it's down to 6.9%. that's because of a lot of things. partly trade enforcement that you've talked about. and partly the auto rescue. all...
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automatic spending decrease stuff goes into effect and economists say that can be devastating for the economy in early january. >> thank you so much, sir, do appreciate you. >> thanks. >>> closely tied over taxes is entitlement reform. a top republican said today he'll drop his plan for higher revenue unless democrats take a look at revamping medicare, medicaid, and social security. >> i'm serious about revenue. you can limit deductions to $40,000 or $50,000 a person, which takes care of the middle class. upper-middle income americans will lose their deductions, but i'll only do that if we do entitlement reform, and the president's plan is quite frankly a joke. >> as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, is there a way to avoid falling over it? joining me live from los angeles, democratic congresswoman maxine waters. congresswoman, always a pleasure to see you. >> hello, how are you? >> tim geithner saying today the administration would deal with social security at a later date. are democrats serious about entitlement reform? >> no, democrats are not furious, except we understand and
automatic spending decrease stuff goes into effect and economists say that can be devastating for the economy in early january. >> thank you so much, sir, do appreciate you. >> thanks. >>> closely tied over taxes is entitlement reform. a top republican said today he'll drop his plan for higher revenue unless democrats take a look at revamping medicare, medicaid, and social security. >> i'm serious about revenue. you can limit deductions to $40,000 or $50,000 a person,...
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this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's important we have a seat at the table. >> joining us now is two governors that attended that meeting, chairman of the national governors association jack merkel as well as oklahoma's republican governor the group's vice chair. thaw for joining us. governor fallon, i'll start off with you. we heard scott walker in there. why not take a side here? >> well, we have 50 different states. we have governors that have different political philosophies. what we're trying to find is common ground, some collaboration between the national governo
this exacts the economy. the uncertainty is creating havoc with our economy and our states. >> well, the bipartisan delegation of governors wrapped up their meetings at the white house a few hourgz ago a. they plan to meet with republican leaders this afternoon and have made one thing clear. they're not taking sides in this one. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan but rather to point out as gary mentioned as governors we think it's...
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we end up with more debt and a weaker economy. the road map is greece, italy, spain, all over europe but the president thinks you can tax-and-spend your way to prosperity. >>neil: what the administration throws back on the issue is take a look at italy and greece, austerity has worked. you say what? >>guest: they have a strange definition. alwaysst either to them means higher taxes in europe and the united states austerity means less spending. i am in favor of the right definition of austerity. the balkan countries got out of the mess and now they are doing well economically because they cut, not just cut spending in the washington sense of increasing it at a slower rate they spent less one year after the other and now they are out of the trouble. if you understand the right definition of austerity is the way to go, the problem is in most of europe it means higher taxes, obama wants to give us the bad part of europe, without the good part. >>neil: thank you very much. they are not cutting anything. just slowing the growth. rebound
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it has enormous economies of scale and bargain for better rates of doctors and hospitals dictate prices so for what it provides, medicare's very cheap. it's getting expensive over time because a lot more people are going on to the program and in general the health care system, public health insurance, private health insurance, it's all very expensive and only so much right now that medicare can do about it. the problem isn't medicare, per se. not that medicare is a wasteful program but the health care system is -- and health care costs and getting in to the guts of the health care system and rather than lopping off a sum of health care. >> if we lowered health care costs overall, the cost of medicare goes down andç medica more affordable without necessarily even needing to tinker with medicare and the point of something that you were writing about. we have all the conversations about hundreds of billions and cutting from medicare to deal with the fiscal cliff right now but your point is, if we can get the cost of health care under control we don't need to cut anything right now and th
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i for one, if you didn't care about the economy and you didn't care about the american people, you bet your life you can get $800 billion or trillion dollars out of raising -- eliminating deductions and tax credits. >> but conman, he kncongressman you muster all those deductions together they only amount to about $400 billion. >> i think we could do that. i think we can do it. first of all, you have to make certain that local and state tax deductions are not there. then you take away all the charitable deductions that we have. then you take away all of the mortgage deductions for the rich and the middle income, all that you have there. and then you start looking at the deductions that you have for children, for earned income tax credits, for the poor people that are there. if you really look at everything that so many americans have taken for granted and even if you don't reach the $800 billion, at least you will find out what is this man talking about. just don't say you can't do it, it's not arithmetic. give them a piece of chalk, go to the blackboard, and show us, mr. speaker, what
i for one, if you didn't care about the economy and you didn't care about the american people, you bet your life you can get $800 billion or trillion dollars out of raising -- eliminating deductions and tax credits. >> but conman, he kncongressman you muster all those deductions together they only amount to about $400 billion. >> i think we could do that. i think we can do it. first of all, you have to make certain that local and state tax deductions are not there. then you take...